ANDREW CLENNELL, HOST: Prime Minister, thanks so much for joining us.
ANTHONY ALBANESE, PRIME MINISTER: Good to be with you, once again on January.
CLENNELL: Indeed. Well, it's an election year. You're behind in pretty much every poll. Are you the underdog leading into this election?
PRIME MINISTER: Well, the polls will come and people will analyse them, such as yourself. My job is to not just stand on our record, but to put forward our alternative vision and why we deserve a second term to build on the foundations that we've established in our first.
CLENNELL: People are writing you off, though. I saw a commercial television segment over the summer headlined, ‘is this election Peter Dutton’s to lose?’ I mean, what's your reaction to that? How, in your view, did we get to people commentating on things like that?
PRIME MINISTER: Well, I've been underestimated my whole life. There are a lot of stories before the 2022 election that were along those lines as well. What I'm confident of is that I lead a Government that's focused, that's orderly, that has seen Australia through some very difficult economic times, that we are heading in the right direction, and that we have an agenda to build on that in our second term.
CLENNELL: Peter Dutton is going to argue, like Donald Trump has, that Australians are worse off than three to four years ago. It's hard to argue against that, isn't it?
PRIME MINISTER: Australia is a different country from the United States. And here in Australia, what we know is that we have been through, like the rest of the industrialised world, difficult economic times. But we've seen faster employment growth than all of the G7 countries, we've seen our economy grow faster than every country in the G7 with the exception of the United States. And we've seen inflation go from having a 6 in front of it to now having a 2 in front of it. While we've created 1.1 million jobs and real wages are increasing,
CLENNELL: But we've seen prices of everything pretty much go up maybe 12 per cent over that time. It's hard for people not to want to blame a government for that, isn't it?
PRIME MINISTER: We understand that people have been doing it tough, but what we've done is act on that, not cheer that on, which Peter Dutton has done. We’ve talked Australia up, and we've taken substantial measures to ensure inflation now has a 2 in front of it. We produced two Budget surpluses to assist with that, but we've also had significant cost of living relief, all of which, whether it was a tax cut for every taxpayer, that is now one year since we announced that change, or whether it's cheaper medicines, more than a billion dollars saved, the more than 1 million people have had access to healthcare through our Urgent Care Clinics, 600,000 Australians getting free TAFE, energy bill relief. All of these measures were important because people were doing it tough and under financial pressure. We understood that. They would have been worse off under Peter Dutton. There wouldn't have been a tax cut for every taxpayer, no energy bill relief, no cheaper medicines, no Free TAFE.
CLENNELL: Have you made any mistakes in your time in office?
PRIME MINISTER: Well, of course there are always things that you, analysts and commentators, can go through and have those assessments. But what I know is that my Government has been focused on delivering each and every day. In hindsight, there are things that could always, of course, if you had that benefit, go back and make things better. But my Government has been focused.
CLENNELL: When you say that, is there anything that springs to mind?
PRIME MINISTER: Well, we underestimated the extent to which the Russian invasion of Ukraine would continue. There was no one in 2022 saying that a land war in Europe would continue in 2025 and that would have such an impact on global inflation because of the impact it had on global energy prices.
CLENNELL: So what could you have done differently if you had estimated that?
PRIME MINISTER: We didn't expect that that was the case, but we acted. What you need to do in government, Andrew, is to respond to things that you don't expect, the curve balls that get thrown at you, like the global inflation pressures, which are there. We've done that. If you had have said to us in 2022 for example, that we would intervene in the market to put a cap on gas and coal prices. That would assume to be a pretty radical thing. You know what, we did that in partnership with the New South Wales Liberal Government and the Queensland Labor Government. Again, it was opposed by Peter Dutton, like every single one of the cost of living measures that we’ve put forward. Now the truth is, if Peter Dutton had had his way, Australians would be worse off now, things would have been worse. People would have been subject to the inflation and cost of living pressures, without any support from the government. He would have just cut them loose, and his record stands there, and indeed going forward as well -
CLENNELL: He might have spent less, though, which has an effect on inflation.
PRIME MINISTER: He was part of a government that left a $78 billion deficit in the 2022 Budget, when –
CLENNELL: Because of the lockdowns, because of JobKeeper.
PRIME MINISTER: No, because of the deficit. JobKeeper wasn't the reason for that $78 billion deficit going forward, the deficit was there as well. There was a whole bunch of splurges done during the election campaign, including some waste, like JobKeeper being paid to companies that were delivering record profits. We had the commuter car parks where there weren't any train stations, and you had a whole range of other measures that he put in place, in spite of the fact that inflation was peaking around that time. And so we saw the inflation figure in the March 2022 quarter, in just one quarter, be almost the same as what the inflation figure is now at an annual rate, both of them having a 2 in front of it.
CLENNELL: Was the Voice Referendum a mistake? And did that do more harm to reconciliation than good?
PRIME MINISTER: Well, one of the people I've spoken to today from the Northern Territory, the Senior Australian of the Year from the Northern Territory, commented that he appreciated the fact that we had kept our word. And one of the things that had occurred was that Scott Morrison, of course, went to the 2019 election saying that they would hold a referendum on constitutional recognition. And indeed, Peter Dutton, you might recall, has promised another referendum in the next term.
CLENNELL: On Sunday Agenda, in fact.
PRIME MINISTER: Well, indeed. That's one of the points Andrew, that this guy makes these statements of policy out there that may or may not be thought through. And then they just disappear. And he walks away from them. But what he can't walk away from is this. He after three years, has opposed to all of our cost of living measures, and he's come up, though, with one for this year, which is that every single taxpayer should pay for the lunches, golf rounds, movie nights, karaoke, perhaps weekends away, it's not clear how this would function at all, to the tune of $20,000 for just some. And that is such sloppy policy that it's no wonder that ever since the big announcement, the big fanfare, he hasn't talked about it much. But he should be held to account because he hasn't done the hard policy work, he just has said ‘no’ and be negative for three years. And finally, this is the only policy that he's come up with on immediate cost of living, apart from of course, his nuclear plan that sometime in the 2040s that will lead to higher power bills, not lower power bills.
CLENNELL: The Voice is your biggest political failure in a 30 year parliamentary career though, isn't it?
PRIME MINISTER: Well, the Australian people had their say, and one of the things about referendums is that we know that the record is that overwhelmingly, they've been defeated. There have been almost 50 held, and we haven't got to double digits of those that have been successful. Now, Peter Dutton, at the beginning of the term, knowing that we would hold a referendum on constitutional recognition, appointed one of the architects of the Voice Julian Leeser, not just as the Shadow Minister for Indigenous Affairs, but as the Shadow Attorney General as well. That was a sign that there was a path -
CLENNELL: He threw a dummy at you, did he?
PRIME MINISTER: That was a sign that there was a path forward on this issue. Now, Peter Dutton chose a different path. That's a matter for him. We respect the outcome, but we don't resile from the fact that we said that we would hold a referendum. We said there was no certainty of the outcome, and we respect that.
CLENNELL: I guess I'm just trying to get to and it might not be comfortable territory, how this feels for you personally. Because there were moments during that debate that you became quite emotional about the prospect of delivering this and you weren't able to do it. Did that hurt you personally?
PRIME MINISTER: Well look, I think that what we've done on Indigenous Affairs for a long period of time clearly has produced results where we have a significant gap in infant mortality, in life expectancy, in health, education and housing outcomes. We know that that's the case. We know that we need to do better. Now, over a long period of time, under the former Government, the Voice, of course, came from the Constitutional Convention of First Nations people held at Uluru in 2017. It wasn't on our watch. It was on the watch of the former Government, said, let's try and do something differently, a different path, by giving Indigenous Australians a say on matters that affect them directly. Now that wasn't successful, and I obviously was supportive of that. And that, though, is one where we respect the decision of the Australian people.
CLENNELL: The election is sometime before May 24, I notice you thank the journalist for not asking about the timing. Unfortunately, I'm going to, you're not going to thank me. So I've been intrigued by recent language from your Finance Minister, where she talks about, quote, the next Budget update is March 25. She's not saying the Budget is March 25. Are you planning for a potential April election as opposed to May?
PRIME MINISTER: No, the Budget’s scheduled for March 25.
CLENNELL: So we will have a Budget?
PRIME MINISTER: The Budget is scheduled for March 25.
CLENNELL: That's when it's scheduled. It doesn't mean you have to deliver it.
PRIME MINISTER: Well, it scheduled. We're working through, the ERC met this week. We're working through the proposals that will form a part of that Budget. Of course, we had a Budget as well in MYEFO, the Mid-Year Economic Forecast, contains some Budget measures in December. Mine is a government that works each and every day because the challenges that we face on the economy, as well as delivering, making sure that the economy isn't viewed as something that's separate from people. It's not just a series of statistics and figures that don't relate to people's quality of life, and that's why we've worked so hard to make sure that people aren't left behind, and that also we build opportunity that people aren't held back.
CLENNELL: But if you go to the election without a Budget, you’ll look like you're squibbing it won't you?
PRIME MINISTER: Look, Andrew, we haven't squibbed anything. What we've done is work each and every day. And I've said you were probably asking me questions in the middle of last year about an election being held in August or September or October. I have said consistently the whole way through that I think that three years is too short. And indeed, this time last year is the anniversary of Peter Dutton, not just opposing our tax cuts for every taxpayer, but saying that we should have an election based upon sure that commitment that we had, that was before it, of course, went through the parliament.
CLENNELL: Is it true the late last year you actually considered a very early election this year? And that Party officials kind of said that's probably not a good idea?
PRIME MINISTER: This is all nonsense, Andrew, you can speculate all you like. I've said consistently on the record, time after time, when asked, that three years is too short.
CLENNELL: Could we get another surplus?
PRIME MINISTER: Look, Andrew, you'll get to see figures. But of course, we've delivered two more surpluses than the former Government did after they promised a surplus in their first year, and every year thereafter.
CLENNELL: The NDIS you and Bill Shorten have had a good go at tackling some of the waste there, but it's hard to get past when you announce billions for infrastructure or hundreds of millions for apprentices, which are required in residential building, as you just have. Or you look at the cost of another dream of yours, high speed rail, or other projects that could benefit Australia, when you talk about building Australia's future. That more than $50 billion a year goes to this scheme, a scheme that originated under a Labor Government, and that the growth is going to be higher than inflation. Isn't there more you can do to cut back on this scheme? We're talking about $50 billion a year of taxpayers’ money. Are we getting bang for buck here?
PRIME MINISTER: Well, I'll make two points. The first is that the NDIS is an important scheme. It's not just an equity measure to give, allow, people to fully participate in society who have a disability. It's that society benefits from that as well. There's an economic bonus. For example, I spoke with one of the recipients of the Australia Day Awards again today, who's working with data analysis with people with a disability, with autism, giving them an opportunity. It's been good for his social enterprise, but it's also good for the people who are participating in employment. That's an important thing to remember what the focus and what the purpose of the NDIS is. Now within that program, the former Government did nothing for the entire time they were in government to address some of the rorting and waste that was there. We want to make sure that every dollar that's used goes to making a difference in the lives of people with a disability and making a difference to their contribution, which benefits our whole society and the economy as well. So we'll continue to deal with this, we have an objective of 8 per cent growth in the NDIS. That was turning around the curve, has been a difficult thing to do, but Bill Shorten did a very good job with that, and Amanda Rishworth will continue that work.
CLENNELL: The IMF thinks you should means test it though. Wouldn't it make sense to have some sort of sliding scale of means test attached to the NDIS? Is it just too hard to do politically?
PRIME MINISTER: No, we're not going down that road. We're going down the road that every Australian deserves dignity and just like a range of other measures, just like you and I are able to, if we have an acute health event, which I had a few years ago. I ended up in Royal Prince Alfred Hospital Emergency Department like Kerry Packer ended up when he had a heart attack, the same ward that my mum an invalid pensioner got taken to, getting the same care. We have in this country in a range of areas an important principle of access for everyone, and the NDIS is about access.
CLENNELL: Let's talk about antisemitism. Peter Dutton was out there calling for a National Cabinet in late 2023. Jillian Segal called for it. You finally had to relent to one last week, was that an admission you'd previously made the wrong decision on that?
PRIME MINISTER: No, it was that we were getting on with a range of discussions and work. We'd had the Operation Avalite established. We'd also had a phone hook up of New South Wales and Victoria. We were getting on with the work that was being done. And one of the things I said is that people don't want just meetings, they want outcomes. We're getting on with that. And one of the things that's happened this week Andrew, is something that was known to myself and to premiers and others, is the number of arrests that have been made and the work that is continuing, led by state police jurisdictions, but also with the assistance of the Australian Federal Police and intelligence agencies.
CLENNELL: Are you worried someone's going to get killed?
PRIME MINISTER: Well, I worry about any activity in our society that is aimed at disruption, and what we have seen here with antisemitism is a scourge. We have seen an increase in antisemitism, and that is of concern to me, but that's why it's important to know that the people who've committed, what are crimes, what are crimes, after all, have been rounded up, have been arrested, have been charged, and are currently still in the clink because they haven't been given bail.
CLENNELL: Do you have any inkling about why criminals are being paid to conduct the attacks, as the Federal Commissioner revealed and appears to have emerged in later court, facts put before court?
PRIME MINISTER: Yes, I do. But I'll leave those operational matters to the police to comment on, because one of the things that we need to be very cautious of here is that we don't undermine investigations which are taking place.
CLENNELL: Is it a potential government involved in any of that, or an individual?
PRIME MINISTER: Well look, I will leave operational matters to those agencies, including our security and intelligence agencies and the police, to comment on all of those matters as they see fit. I've received briefings throughout this period and continue to do so.
CLENNELL: That sounds like there might be some sort of government involvement.
PRIME MINISTER: No, I'm not saying that. I'm not trying to be cute, Andrew. What I'm trying to do, though, is to make sure that any comments by political figures do two things. One is they don't undermine investigations. And the other thing that's really important with this is that we take account of the comments that Mike Burgess has said very clearly on a number of occasions, which is that we do need to turn down the heat on these discussions and politicians have a role in that.
CLENNELL: Now, typically this time of year, you go to the Sydney Test and you go the Australian Open. I've been led to believe you neither you went to the Sydney Test. You didn't go to that. You're not going to the Australian Open final. Something you've done over many years. Is that because you want to show Australians how focused you are on where they're at, and is that an indication of how focused you are on the election?
PRIME MINISTER: I'm completely focused on the needs of the Australian people. And tonight, I will be at the Australian of the Year Awards, and tomorrow night, when the men's final is on, I'll be at the Australia Day events that take place in Sydney. I think it's really important that national leaders attend the national events. And I have done that as Opposition Leader. I've done that also as Prime Minister, just like I've done this interview with you every year in the lead up to Australia Day.
CLENNELL: Donald Trump has pulled out of the Paris Accord, we know. Are you critical of him for that decision?
PRIME MINISTER: Well Andrew, that is a decision that is consistent with what he said before the election. I don't intend to run an ongoing commentary on domestic decisions that President Trump makes. What I intend to do is to stand up for Australia's national interest and our national interest lies with continuing to take action on climate change, including through international accords such as the Paris Agreement, that of course, was signed up to by the former Government, but we remain committed to.
CLENNELL: I mean, when you take the case to the Australian public for the need for action on climate change, and we've seen bush fires, we see them again in Western Australia as we speak. The situation in terms of the global agreement, China isn't acting, India isn't acting, if they are acting, they're not acting enough. Now the US isn't going to act. You could be forgiven, couldn't you, as an Australian, for thinking, what's the point? I mean, why are we taking action and sacrificing through our power bills and whatever our else, when our 1 per cent of emissions won't have a direct effect on the climate if these other nations don't act.
PRIME MINISTER: Well I'll make two points there. One is per capita emissions from us are substantially higher than most, if not just about all of the world, are substantial. The second point I'd make is that China is investing massively in renewables, massively, as is India as well, in delivering some of the world's largest projects, are taking place there. And the reason why they're doing that Andrew isn't just about the environment. It's because it makes good economic sense and for Australia to act on the opportunity that we have is not only about reducing our emissions, it's about economic opportunity. And there's nowhere you'd rather be positioned than here in Australia to take advantage of those economic opportunities.
CLENNELL: So why aren't you setting a 2035 target before the election?
PRIME MINISTER: Because the legislation that was carried by the parliament, overwhelmingly with our support, relies upon getting advice first from the climate change authority.
CLENNELL: So Trump's election had nothing to do with putting that off until after the election?
PRIME MINISTER: No, we've made it very clear that that was the case, and we're not going to be in breach of our own legislation.
CLENNELL: I heard you yesterday at the Press Club point to global inflationary causes for energy bills going up, fair enough, but you did go the last election pledging to cut power bills by $275 a year. Can you admit now, regardless of the cause, that's a broken promise?
PRIME MINISTER: Well, what I say is that we have implemented a policy that we said we would, a 43 per cent target, that's now legislated. What we're doing is working on increasing new energy, new renewables, backed up, importantly by batteries and by gas in order to secure that future. We have connections globally with energy prices. That is just a fact, and global energy prices spiked substantially as a direct result. -
CLENNELL: But it's a broken promise.
PRIME MINISTER: As a direct result.
CLENNELL: So you don't see it as a broken promise? Because of global factors?
PRIME MINISTER: It was a direct result of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, led to a spike in prices.
CLENNELL: I understand, but I just wanted to see clarity on this. You don't see this as a broken promise, because it was affected by global factors?
PRIME MINISTER: What I see is that as a direct result of what we are doing, we are ensuring that there is a private sector investment in the cheapest form of energy, as opposed to our opponents who want to invest in the most expensive form of new energy, nuclear.
CLENNELL: I wanted to ask you about the gender issue in the wake of Donald Trump's executive order. You recently sought to say to the census people, don't put in all these questions about all manner of genders, and then you overturned that decision. Do you have a view on how many genders there are, or there legally should be considered to be?
PRIME MINISTER: What I have a view on is that people should be respected for who they are, and we do need to have a common sense approach. There was in some of the proposed draft questions that were put forward, I didn't think they were appropriate, and I made that clear.
CLENNELL: On the DFAT website, I didn't know this, it says you can identify as “X” on a passport, rather male or female, you've got three options. Obviously, that's something that Donald Trump's overturned. It also says in there that not all countries observe this. This isn't something you're looking to change?
PRIME MINISTER: What I'm not interested in is culture wars and looking for ways to look for division. What I'm interested in is uniting Australians, looking for what we have in common, not looking for these issues in order to create disagreements. I tell you what Australians ask me when I'm round the street, Andrew, and I'm sure that they say to you as well. Overwhelmingly, cost of living is the number one issue. They're concerned about the future economy, jobs, they're concerned about housing, they're concerned about the quality of education, healthcare, all of those issues, that is what my Government is focused on.
CLENNELL: We had this story on Sky News about Sue Lines and Penny Wong and this trip to the Auschwitz Memorial. I know you've enjoyed the stories. Why was Sue Lines originally down for it though, and was it because of her previous comments?
PRIME MINISTER: This is one of the strangest things that I've seen Sky News do.
CLENNELL: I don't know. I think it's a legitimate story. Sue Lines is someone who the Jewish community is concerned about her comments. She was on. She was that said to the organisers, she's going. Then suddenly it was Penny Wong.
PRIME MINISTER: To who did she say that to?
CLENNELL: Well, the delegation were made aware in an email.
PRIME MINISTER: No, not by her.
CLENNELL: Yes, not by her. By the Government.
PRIME MINISTER: No, not by the Government.
CLENNELL: Home Affairs.
PRIME MINISTER: Not by the Government. I'm the Prime Minister, Andrew.
CLENNELL: One of your departmental officials.
PRIME MINISTER: What, one of the thousands of public servants got something wrong?
CLENNELL: Where did she get that idea? Did she dream it up?
PRIME MINISTER: No, because the last time the Liberals were in government, they sent the President of the Senate to the 75th anniversary.
CLENNELL: So she made that assumption?
PRIME MINISTER: No idea. No idea who it is. No idea why people think this is an issue. What we did was and I authorised it, the three people who are going representing the Australian Government, Penny Wong, our Foreign Minister, Mark Dreyfus, our Attorney General, and Jillian Segal, our Special Envoy on Antisemitism. That's an entirely appropriate and respectful delegation to commemorate the atrocity, the horror that is the Holocaust, on its 80th anniversary.
CLENNELL: You talked a lot on Friday about the stage three tax cuts decision. If Peter Dutton offers more tax cuts in this campaign, will you look at matching what he does? Or could you see yourself coming up with a new tax framework?
PRIME MINISTER: That's a hypothetical on a hypothetical Andrew with respect. What we know is that Peter Dutton’s opposed to tax cuts for low and middle income earners -
CLENNELL: Are you doing more tax cuts?
PRIME MINISTER: That's what we know is the case. I'm not going into hypotheticals, Andrew.
CLENNELL: Every Australian watching is hoping you are.
PRIME MINISTER: What we have done is deliver real dollars into people's pockets. As a direct result of what we have done, Australians can earn more with wages increasing, and they keep more of what they earn with our tax cuts, both of which were opposed by the Coalition. And you might remember Andrew during the last campaign, the little $1 coin I put in my pocket going around, bringing it out. They said that if wages, the minimum wage increased by just $1 an hour, then there would be travesty. The roof would fall in, the economy would crash. There was all sorts of horror stories. They alleged it was a mistake me saying that. But we've done it, not once, not twice, but three times. Increases in the minimum wage. That's a good thing, because people, the less income you have, obviously, the more difficult inflationary pressures are for you. And that's why, a year ago, I made the tough decision, but done for the right reasons. I can't remember what your view in commentating on this show was, but it wasn't universally applauded in the first 48 hours. It was the right thing to do and I hope now you can concede that it was the right thing to do.
CLENNELL: Well, I’d always support tax cuts, Prime Minister. I'm backing the horse called self-interest. As you said yesterday -
PRIME MINISTER: I took some money off you and gave it to people on lower incomes. And that was something that was a difficult thing to do. But we did it, and because of that, that has assisted in a way too, that hasn't added to inflation, because it's not a big pot of money going out at once. It's every single week or fortnight or monthly, in people's pay packet, more dollars in their pocket.
CLENNELL: Last year, you and your fiance purchased a $4.2 million house on the Central Coast that looked like a plan for retirement. It looked like you weren't thinking about staying in the job forever. It also could be argued, it appears to run counter the slogan that got you elected, ‘no one left behind.’ Because when a Prime Minister buys a $4.2 million house, hasn't he left most people behind?
PRIME MINISTER: Not at all. Andrew, not every decision that I make as a human being is through a focus group, is about politics. Around about this time last year, on February 14, I proposed to Jodie. I've met someone I want to spend the rest of my life with, and what happens when people make that decision, if they're in a position to, they go and get a mortgage together, and it's mortgaged. And I sold another property, a property that I had in order to assist with that, so that down the track, down the track, we can have somewhere close to where, where Jodie grew up, where Jodie's parents and family all are. And it wasn't a political decision. It was very much a personal one. But I think people as well would understand that the idea that Jodie and I, when this ends, and it will end, we won't be here in 20 years’ time. We will not spend our later years in the same house where Carmel and I, my first wife, the mother of my son, our son, Nathan, where we raised Nathan and where we lived as a family, that's what happens. Life is complex. People have real relationships that matter. I consider myself incredibly fortunate to have met Jodi, someone I want to spend the rest of my life with and we, of course, have made this decision as well, importantly, to buy somewhere together for down the track.
CLENNELL: There has been something about Australian politics since John Howard lost in 2007 that voters get sick of the PM after two to three years, or even less, happened to all of them since. Now you've been in office for close to three years. Are you concerned about this sort of vote them off the island scenario affecting you?
PRIME MINISTER: Well it is true that the last time a Prime Minister won two elections in a row, served a term and was elected, was John Howard in 2004 so it's been more than two decades. I don't think that that has served Australia well. I think that both political parties are guilty of that with changes, without an election, to the Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, Julie Gillard, Tony Abbott, didn't make it to two years after leading the Liberal Party to a substantial victory in 2013 and then, of course, Malcolm Turnbull. Now I think that three year terms is very short as it is. My Government has been stable, has been orderly, has been united, and it stands in contrast. Peter Dutton still has had these vacancies for Stuart Roberts’s position for almost a year, Julian Leeser’s position. Now, we've had no Shadow Foreign Minister replacing Simon Birmingham or Paul Fletcher. He seems incapable of managing their internals, because they seem to be at war with each other. My only fight that I want to have is for the Australian people and my team is united in that. Yesterday, the announcement that we made that we now have six states and territories signed up to full funding, as recommended by David Gonski 14 years ago, is yet another significant step forward for the nation, and I look forward to the next term being in a position to continue with that unity. You're an observer of politics, Andrew. Every first term government, whether it's John Howard's between ‘96 and ‘98 or Kevin Rudd's Government, or Tony Abbott's Government, has seen ministers come and go, and has seen conflict within. We have been the most united, focused team that Australia has seen, certainly this century. And I think that puts us in a good position going forward.
CLENNELL: Prime Minister thanks so much for your time.
PRIME MINISTER: Thanks Andrew.